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		<title>By: Earl K</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2007/10/why-do-we-create-boring-materials/comment-page-1/#comment-40063</link>
		<dc:creator>Earl K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What great points you make regarding reasons why there is the creation of boring materials.  These are all valid reasons and as an educator, it makes me stop and reflect on my own teaching practices.  I would say that the areas I struggle with are too much telling and not enough time.  With the increased demands that are always present in the educational setting, it can all be too easy to stay in our current ways and not look at things in new ways.  Too much telling can also go with this because we want the students to gain the information but feel as though there is not enough enough time to bring in many creative aspects that allow them to explore.  It is important, however to remember that everyone learns differently and we still need to make our best effort at reaching them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What great points you make regarding reasons why there is the creation of boring materials.  These are all valid reasons and as an educator, it makes me stop and reflect on my own teaching practices.  I would say that the areas I struggle with are too much telling and not enough time.  With the increased demands that are always present in the educational setting, it can all be too easy to stay in our current ways and not look at things in new ways.  Too much telling can also go with this because we want the students to gain the information but feel as though there is not enough enough time to bring in many creative aspects that allow them to explore.  It is important, however to remember that everyone learns differently and we still need to make our best effort at reaching them.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 13:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To make my courses interesting for students I create it in powerpoint and then turn it to flash with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ispringsolutions.com&quot; title=&quot;PowerPoint to Flash&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;iSpring Pro&lt;/a&gt; which makes my presentations easy to share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To make my courses interesting for students I create it in powerpoint and then turn it to flash with <a href="http://www.ispringsolutions.com" title="PowerPoint to Flash" rel="nofollow">iSpring Pro</a> which makes my presentations easy to share.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-12-10 &#124; Ed Tech Hacks</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2007-12-10 &#124; Ed Tech Hacks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Quintus Joubert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quintus Joubert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cathy,

What a timely topic.  I was asked the exact question yesterday when I presented to a group of potential clients and my answer was right in line with your points.  My honest answer was that it is easier, quicker, less work and less expensive.  Also creating interesting engaging content requires understanding the content and the audience.  In most instances that requires a strong relationship between the content developer (most often an eLearning vendor) and the subject matter expert/s (client).  You also need an eLearning developer/vendor who understands the value of having an initial needs assessment and brainstorming session to determine what the objectives of the course are and how these can be achieved.  Some business users/customers are scared off by the process as they see it as too time consuming and detailed.  Developing a creative course also requires the business users/client to think outside the box and use creative/fun graphics and some humor – many companies are too conservative/PC to think outside the box.  

Keep up the good work,

Quintus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathy,</p>
<p>What a timely topic.  I was asked the exact question yesterday when I presented to a group of potential clients and my answer was right in line with your points.  My honest answer was that it is easier, quicker, less work and less expensive.  Also creating interesting engaging content requires understanding the content and the audience.  In most instances that requires a strong relationship between the content developer (most often an eLearning vendor) and the subject matter expert/s (client).  You also need an eLearning developer/vendor who understands the value of having an initial needs assessment and brainstorming session to determine what the objectives of the course are and how these can be achieved.  Some business users/customers are scared off by the process as they see it as too time consuming and detailed.  Developing a creative course also requires the business users/client to think outside the box and use creative/fun graphics and some humor – many companies are too conservative/PC to think outside the box.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work,</p>
<p>Quintus.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura, thanks for reminding me of Ken Robinson&#039;s talk. I hadn&#039;t seen it for awhile and will enjoy watching it again. Ivan Illich&#039;s ideas are also compelling; Wikipedia provides a starting point if anyone is interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Illich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura, thanks for reminding me of Ken Robinson&#8217;s talk. I hadn&#8217;t seen it for awhile and will enjoy watching it again. Ivan Illich&#8217;s ideas are also compelling; Wikipedia provides a starting point if anyone is interested: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Illich" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Illich</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I like your examples of the ethics questions--it&#039;s a fun challenge for both the designer and the learner to consider plausible yet incorrect options. One good test of a course on &quot;common sense&quot; topics like ethics is to give the questions to someone who hasn&#039;t read the course materials. If they pass the test, we&#039;ve got work to do.

Seen on a wall recently: &quot;If you&#039;re thinking outside the box, the box is still defining your thinking.&quot;

I like Brian Eno&#039;s Oblique Strategies: http://stoney.sb.org/eno/oblique.html

Today&#039;s was &quot;Faced with a choice, do both.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I like your examples of the ethics questions&#8211;it&#8217;s a fun challenge for both the designer and the learner to consider plausible yet incorrect options. One good test of a course on &#8220;common sense&#8221; topics like ethics is to give the questions to someone who hasn&#8217;t read the course materials. If they pass the test, we&#8217;ve got work to do.</p>
<p>Seen on a wall recently: &#8220;If you&#8217;re thinking outside the box, the box is still defining your thinking.&#8221;</p>
<p>I like Brian Eno&#8217;s Oblique Strategies: <a href="http://stoney.sb.org/eno/oblique.html" rel="nofollow">http://stoney.sb.org/eno/oblique.html</a></p>
<p>Today&#8217;s was &#8220;Faced with a choice, do both.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke, I&#039;m sorry your client got cold feet. File that idea away for a braver client!

It seems that compliance courses are even less likely to be done creatively, possibly because they exist mainly because of fear (of lawsuits, regulatory trouble, etc. etc.). When we&#039;re motivated by fear we&#039;re even less likely to consider creative solutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke, I&#8217;m sorry your client got cold feet. File that idea away for a braver client!</p>
<p>It seems that compliance courses are even less likely to be done creatively, possibly because they exist mainly because of fear (of lawsuits, regulatory trouble, etc. etc.). When we&#8217;re motivated by fear we&#8217;re even less likely to consider creative solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norman, I agree that the current approach to compliance &quot;training&quot; is often one of &quot;Just get it out there so we can check it off the list.&quot; If we really believed that the content was important, we&#039;d spend some time making it challenging. I think another issue is the fact that we&#039;re using elearning for courses that should be delivered in other ways. And we&#039;re doing it so cynically that at least one provider of online anti-harassment training places a timer on the screen and forces learners who are going too quickly to sit and stare at the screen while the timer runs down, all so the manager can say that the learner received two hours of training.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norman, I agree that the current approach to compliance &#8220;training&#8221; is often one of &#8220;Just get it out there so we can check it off the list.&#8221; If we really believed that the content was important, we&#8217;d spend some time making it challenging. I think another issue is the fact that we&#8217;re using elearning for courses that should be delivered in other ways. And we&#8217;re doing it so cynically that at least one provider of online anti-harassment training places a timer on the screen and forces learners who are going too quickly to sit and stare at the screen while the timer runs down, all so the manager can say that the learner received two hours of training.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Kratochvil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Kratochvil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 01:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have learned to learn &quot;boringly&quot; early on=school. I am guessing you have seen it, but Ken Robinson (see:http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/66) makes this case sooo well at a Ted Conference explaining how schools &quot;learn the creativity&quot; right out of us. It&#039;s an awesome video, entertaining AND educational....whoa!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have learned to learn &#8220;boringly&#8221; early on=school. I am guessing you have seen it, but Ken Robinson (see:<a href="http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/66" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/66</a>) makes this case sooo well at a Ted Conference explaining how schools &#8220;learn the creativity&#8221; right out of us. It&#8217;s an awesome video, entertaining AND educational&#8230;.whoa!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ferguson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cathy:

One thought I have is that the first clever idea that comes into your head (or at least into mine)... isn&#039;t.  Boredom can stem from predictability.  If I never see that 9-dot, think-outside-the-box puzzle again, I&#039;ll be much happier.  And I deeply believe the training world doesn&#039;t need another Jeopardy game.  [Especially if you&#039;re not working on recall.]

A related idea: don&#039;t be too literal.  Even if you choose a Jeopardy format, the Constitution does &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; require answering with a question, nor do you have to let the winner have the first shot at the next question.

The heart of the matter is: how can I encourage a person to interact with the material?  I worked on mandatory ethics training for a federal agency.  Fortunately, the ethics attorney who was my chief source believed in using difficult cases, rather than ones in which a vendor offers someone a suitcase of unmarked $20 bills.  In our vignettes, possible responses included what I think of as highly orthodox correct answers, perfectly acceptable correct answers, and plausible but unacceptable answers.  

The range of responses, coupled with the individual&#039;s ability to cycle back and see feedback for other responses, went a long way toward the &quot;don&#039;t do this or else&quot; approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathy:</p>
<p>One thought I have is that the first clever idea that comes into your head (or at least into mine)&#8230; isn&#8217;t.  Boredom can stem from predictability.  If I never see that 9-dot, think-outside-the-box puzzle again, I&#8217;ll be much happier.  And I deeply believe the training world doesn&#8217;t need another Jeopardy game.  [Especially if you're not working on recall.]</p>
<p>A related idea: don&#8217;t be too literal.  Even if you choose a Jeopardy format, the Constitution does <i>not</i> require answering with a question, nor do you have to let the winner have the first shot at the next question.</p>
<p>The heart of the matter is: how can I encourage a person to interact with the material?  I worked on mandatory ethics training for a federal agency.  Fortunately, the ethics attorney who was my chief source believed in using difficult cases, rather than ones in which a vendor offers someone a suitcase of unmarked $20 bills.  In our vignettes, possible responses included what I think of as highly orthodox correct answers, perfectly acceptable correct answers, and plausible but unacceptable answers.  </p>
<p>The range of responses, coupled with the individual&#8217;s ability to cycle back and see feedback for other responses, went a long way toward the &#8220;don&#8217;t do this or else&#8221; approach.</p>
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