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	<title>Comments on: Mac users: Avoid Keynote 09 for Flash</title>
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		<title>By: How to build branching scenarios in elearning</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-33522</link>
		<dc:creator>How to build branching scenarios in elearning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 21:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] produce the slides and SWF, I used Keynote 08 (not Keynote 09!). Keynote is a slide editor for the Mac. You could create the same interaction with PowerPoint and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: wheat</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-30194</link>
		<dc:creator>wheat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 17:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, lots of irrational Apple hatred and claim chowder all in one post! Apple has been posting some big numbers for a while now. They&#039;re not going anywhere. Even you example is off. Did Sony die when Betamax went under? Nope. 

Apple isn&#039;t under any ethical obligation to support Adobe&#039;s products. Nor is Adobe under any ethical obligation to do the same. That&#039;s the long and the short of it. I like both companies and use products from both of them. Both companies play these sorts of games for strategic advantage. There&#039;s no reason you or I should take it personally.

As for designers and musicians, I&#039;m a musician and I use Macs for my music production work, and so most musicians I know. Most of my designer friends also use Macs. Macs are still a very popular choice among that demographic. 

What has changed is that Apple products, especially their mobile products, have become tremendously popular with a broad range of consumers, even consumers who use Windows boxes otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, lots of irrational Apple hatred and claim chowder all in one post! Apple has been posting some big numbers for a while now. They&#8217;re not going anywhere. Even you example is off. Did Sony die when Betamax went under? Nope. </p>
<p>Apple isn&#8217;t under any ethical obligation to support Adobe&#8217;s products. Nor is Adobe under any ethical obligation to do the same. That&#8217;s the long and the short of it. I like both companies and use products from both of them. Both companies play these sorts of games for strategic advantage. There&#8217;s no reason you or I should take it personally.</p>
<p>As for designers and musicians, I&#8217;m a musician and I use Macs for my music production work, and so most musicians I know. Most of my designer friends also use Macs. Macs are still a very popular choice among that demographic. </p>
<p>What has changed is that Apple products, especially their mobile products, have become tremendously popular with a broad range of consumers, even consumers who use Windows boxes otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: RagingMoose</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-30186</link>
		<dc:creator>RagingMoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 12:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*sigh* Once again way to go Apple; removing useful features adobe related... I bet it was more trouble removing it than just leaving it there. 

(And put some proper cpu&#039;s in your stuff before you start shouting &#039;full web access!&#039; Like you own the web. Hating on adobe just to keep alive this gimmick app-store-bubble which will be over soon like betamax. The whole powertrip reminds me of... MICROSOFT! During Apple 90&#039;s crisis it was the designers and musicians who kept it alive, but that seems to be long gone forgotten...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh* Once again way to go Apple; removing useful features adobe related&#8230; I bet it was more trouble removing it than just leaving it there. </p>
<p>(And put some proper cpu&#8217;s in your stuff before you start shouting &#8216;full web access!&#8217; Like you own the web. Hating on adobe just to keep alive this gimmick app-store-bubble which will be over soon like betamax. The whole powertrip reminds me of&#8230; MICROSOFT! During Apple 90&#8242;s crisis it was the designers and musicians who kept it alive, but that seems to be long gone forgotten&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: wheat</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-28899</link>
		<dc:creator>wheat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 13:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flash isn&#039;t a server issue; it&#039;s a client issue. The client has to support playback of the files, and Adobe&#039;s Flash plugins have a long history, on OS X at least, of being buggy and resource intensive. But these issues aside, the main problem is that Flash is a platform unto itself, and Apple doesn&#039;t want to yield control of their platform to a third-party vendor. You can&#039;t run Java or .NET apps on iOS devices either, for similar reasons, but nobody seems to care. 

I like SWF as an output format and use it in all of my Captivate 5 production work, which is consumed primary on desktop and laptop computers, mostly Windows but also OS X. 

There&#039;s no way for OS X to lock out Flash, as you aren&#039;t limited to the App Store for installing applications, as you are on iOS devices. Having to install via the App Store has always been the case for iOS devices and has never been the case for the desktop/laptop version of OS X. Even thought there is now an App Store for OS X, Apple would have a pretty hard time convincing people that they should have to go through it to install apps on their desktops/laptops. 

As for Blue-ray, who cares? Blue-ray is the last gasp of content merchants who can&#039;t admit that web-based delivery is the future, and that they should pay twice as much for it as for the same thing on DVD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flash isn&#8217;t a server issue; it&#8217;s a client issue. The client has to support playback of the files, and Adobe&#8217;s Flash plugins have a long history, on OS X at least, of being buggy and resource intensive. But these issues aside, the main problem is that Flash is a platform unto itself, and Apple doesn&#8217;t want to yield control of their platform to a third-party vendor. You can&#8217;t run Java or .NET apps on iOS devices either, for similar reasons, but nobody seems to care. </p>
<p>I like SWF as an output format and use it in all of my Captivate 5 production work, which is consumed primary on desktop and laptop computers, mostly Windows but also OS X. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no way for OS X to lock out Flash, as you aren&#8217;t limited to the App Store for installing applications, as you are on iOS devices. Having to install via the App Store has always been the case for iOS devices and has never been the case for the desktop/laptop version of OS X. Even thought there is now an App Store for OS X, Apple would have a pretty hard time convincing people that they should have to go through it to install apps on their desktops/laptops. </p>
<p>As for Blue-ray, who cares? Blue-ray is the last gasp of content merchants who can&#8217;t admit that web-based delivery is the future, and that they should pay twice as much for it as for the same thing on DVD.</p>
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		<title>By: eLearning Guru</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-28880</link>
		<dc:creator>eLearning Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 02:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apples support and allegiance to streaming video is getting quite absurd.

Any web server is able to play embedded Flash and that is why anyone would choose to export as Flash in the first place.  Most web servers however are not enabled to play streaming movies and shared hosts disallow it because it is too server intensive.  Apple clearly understands this and so I also don’t understand Apple’s reasoning at all.

Apples reasoning does not however surprise me when I observe my Macbook Pro and its total incompatibility with BluRay.  Apple presently focuses much of its time directing customers into the iTunes and their online shop.  It appears that Flash competes against that.

If we customers are not careful I would not be surprised if OS X and Safari prevent playing Flash altogether just like other Apple portable devices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apples support and allegiance to streaming video is getting quite absurd.</p>
<p>Any web server is able to play embedded Flash and that is why anyone would choose to export as Flash in the first place.  Most web servers however are not enabled to play streaming movies and shared hosts disallow it because it is too server intensive.  Apple clearly understands this and so I also don’t understand Apple’s reasoning at all.</p>
<p>Apples reasoning does not however surprise me when I observe my Macbook Pro and its total incompatibility with BluRay.  Apple presently focuses much of its time directing customers into the iTunes and their online shop.  It appears that Flash competes against that.</p>
<p>If we customers are not careful I would not be surprised if OS X and Safari prevent playing Flash altogether just like other Apple portable devices.</p>
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		<title>By: Wheat</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-22677</link>
		<dc:creator>Wheat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple has good and bad reasons for keeping Flash off its mobile devices. Now that Apple has lifted the (unreasonable) restriction on Flash as a development tool for iOS apps, Flash developers have a way to create apps for iOS devices. The problem with virtual machines is end users don&#039;t understand them, and any issues with them are seen as issues with the host OS. End users don&#039;t say &quot;damn this Flash plug-in!&quot;. They say &quot;my computer is slow and my browser keeps crashing!&quot;

Of course, it&#039;s not just a technical problem. There&#039;s clearly bad blood between Adobe and Apple. And neither company is blameless in fostering and continuing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple has good and bad reasons for keeping Flash off its mobile devices. Now that Apple has lifted the (unreasonable) restriction on Flash as a development tool for iOS apps, Flash developers have a way to create apps for iOS devices. The problem with virtual machines is end users don&#8217;t understand them, and any issues with them are seen as issues with the host OS. End users don&#8217;t say &#8220;damn this Flash plug-in!&#8221;. They say &#8220;my computer is slow and my browser keeps crashing!&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s not just a technical problem. There&#8217;s clearly bad blood between Adobe and Apple. And neither company is blameless in fostering and continuing it.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkyB</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-22673</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was gutted to discover this today after updating to iWork &#039;09 recently. I&#039;ll be reinstalling my old &#039;08 version right away.

I used to be a Flash expert back in my freelance era, but these days mostly use Keynote to quickly create small interactive Flash media for my organisations website.

Exporting to Quicktime is NOT a solution to me. 

QT creates a bitmap based video file. Flash is not just about video - it is on the whole a vector-based format with excellent real-time animation and interactivity, meaning file sizes are very small (especially if you only have vector artwork and text). Flash SWFs are emminently scaleable and retain their quality without compression artifacts (unless you have embedded images/video).

99% of the world has Flash installed on computers, and not just for Youtube videos. Quicktime requires the installation of the full QT package, a huge download, and the plugin is a media player, not a seamless interactive element on a webpage.

Apple&#039;s irrational hatred of Flash is perhaps just cynical revenue protection for their iPhone/iPad App Store, meaning people can&#039;t use the multitude of free Flash-based tools, interactive media and games on their mobile devices on the web so have to buy similar ones via Apple.

I get as annoyed as anyone by the horrendous overuse of Flash banners and video advertising on commercial websites, but as a creative tool for small, interactive media it&#039;s brilliant. And Keynote was a nice easy shortcut to production.

Thanks for the &#039;upgrade&#039; Apple!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was gutted to discover this today after updating to iWork &#8217;09 recently. I&#8217;ll be reinstalling my old &#8217;08 version right away.</p>
<p>I used to be a Flash expert back in my freelance era, but these days mostly use Keynote to quickly create small interactive Flash media for my organisations website.</p>
<p>Exporting to Quicktime is NOT a solution to me. </p>
<p>QT creates a bitmap based video file. Flash is not just about video &#8211; it is on the whole a vector-based format with excellent real-time animation and interactivity, meaning file sizes are very small (especially if you only have vector artwork and text). Flash SWFs are emminently scaleable and retain their quality without compression artifacts (unless you have embedded images/video).</p>
<p>99% of the world has Flash installed on computers, and not just for Youtube videos. Quicktime requires the installation of the full QT package, a huge download, and the plugin is a media player, not a seamless interactive element on a webpage.</p>
<p>Apple&#8217;s irrational hatred of Flash is perhaps just cynical revenue protection for their iPhone/iPad App Store, meaning people can&#8217;t use the multitude of free Flash-based tools, interactive media and games on their mobile devices on the web so have to buy similar ones via Apple.</p>
<p>I get as annoyed as anyone by the horrendous overuse of Flash banners and video advertising on commercial websites, but as a creative tool for small, interactive media it&#8217;s brilliant. And Keynote was a nice easy shortcut to production.</p>
<p>Thanks for the &#8216;upgrade&#8217; Apple!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Gencarelle</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-19648</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Gencarelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 20:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found a workaround of sorts.  Create a webpage with your flash animations- insert a text box link to that page and then you will have the Flash interactivity granted on a web page but there to use with your presentation-tab back to Keynote when done.
Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found a workaround of sorts.  Create a webpage with your flash animations- insert a text box link to that page and then you will have the Flash interactivity granted on a web page but there to use with your presentation-tab back to Keynote when done.<br />
Nick</p>
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		<title>By: GM</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-14981</link>
		<dc:creator>GM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 03:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are looking for Keynote 08 you may download a trial version here:
http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iWork/Trial/693-6302.20070807.n8rT5/iWork08Trial.dmg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are looking for Keynote 08 you may download a trial version here:<br />
<a href="http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iWork/Trial/693-6302.20070807.n8rT5/iWork08Trial.dmg" rel="nofollow">http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iWork/Trial/693-6302.20070807.n8rT5/iWork08Trial.dmg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maarten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maarten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really a shame Apple took out this option. I was going to upgrade to iWork&#039;09 but decide now to stay with &#039;08 to be able to make interactive lessons in flash.
A new other and cheap solution for learning management system would be also be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really a shame Apple took out this option. I was going to upgrade to iWork&#8217;09 but decide now to stay with &#8217;08 to be able to make interactive lessons in flash.<br />
A new other and cheap solution for learning management system would be also be appreciated.</p>
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