Comments on: Mac users: Avoid Keynote 09 for Flash http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/ Practical ideas that help you develop lively, powerful elearning. Concisely covers instructional design, authoring tools, and rapid elearning development, with an emphasis on simple, creative ideas that have a big impact. Thu, 09 Sep 2010 10:42:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: GM http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-14981 GM Mon, 05 Oct 2009 03:16:09 +0000 http://blog.cathy-moore.com/?p=522#comment-14981 If you are looking for Keynote 08 you may download a trial version here: http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iWork/Trial/693-6302.20070807.n8rT5/iWork08Trial.dmg If you are looking for Keynote 08 you may download a trial version here:
http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iWork/Trial/693-6302.20070807.n8rT5/iWork08Trial.dmg

]]> By: Maarten http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-14859 Maarten Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:47:19 +0000 http://blog.cathy-moore.com/?p=522#comment-14859 It's really a shame Apple took out this option. I was going to upgrade to iWork'09 but decide now to stay with '08 to be able to make interactive lessons in flash. A new other and cheap solution for learning management system would be also be appreciated. It’s really a shame Apple took out this option. I was going to upgrade to iWork’09 but decide now to stay with ‘08 to be able to make interactive lessons in flash.
A new other and cheap solution for learning management system would be also be appreciated.

]]> By: wheat http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-14205 wheat Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:31:22 +0000 http://blog.cathy-moore.com/?p=522#comment-14205 I'll have to test that. My assumption is that the QuickTime export from Keynote would lose all interactivity (except for hyperlinks, which QT supports). I'm assuming that the YouTube upload/conversion process would also lose the interactivity, but I'd have to test that to be sure. You've added two things to my to do list. :) For branching scenarios, I'd probably use Captivate instead. And I'm really looking forward to the OS X version of that app, as it's become one of my favorite tools. I’ll have to test that. My assumption is that the QuickTime export from Keynote would lose all interactivity (except for hyperlinks, which QT supports). I’m assuming that the YouTube upload/conversion process would also lose the interactivity, but I’d have to test that to be sure. You’ve added two things to my to do list. :)

For branching scenarios, I’d probably use Captivate instead. And I’m really looking forward to the OS X version of that app, as it’s become one of my favorite tools.

]]> By: Cathy Moore http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-14204 Cathy Moore Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:55:51 +0000 http://blog.cathy-moore.com/?p=522#comment-14204 Wheat, thanks for you comment. It sounds like you can get slideshows into Flash that route. My understanding is that if you go the QuickTime route, items on the screen are no longer clickable and you're reduced to just a Next button. For example, could I put three options on the screen and have the user click the option they want? Wheat, thanks for you comment. It sounds like you can get slideshows into Flash that route. My understanding is that if you go the QuickTime route, items on the screen are no longer clickable and you’re reduced to just a Next button. For example, could I put three options on the screen and have the user click the option they want?

]]> By: wheat http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-14203 wheat Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:50:59 +0000 http://blog.cathy-moore.com/?p=522#comment-14203 It's sad that they removed it (I have iWork '09 and have never used '08, so I missed out on the fun), but here are a few workarounds: If you have Adobe Flash, you can export from Keynote to QuickTime (.mov), import the .mov into Flash, and output to SWF or FLV. I believe even the 30-day trial version of Flash supports this option. You can also upload the .mov to YouTube, let them convert it (to FLV), and then use the YouTube-generated embed code in your web page (assuming your learners have access to YouTube). It’s sad that they removed it (I have iWork ‘09 and have never used ‘08, so I missed out on the fun), but here are a few workarounds:

If you have Adobe Flash, you can export from Keynote to QuickTime (.mov), import the .mov into Flash, and output to SWF or FLV. I believe even the 30-day trial version of Flash supports this option.

You can also upload the .mov to YouTube, let them convert it (to FLV), and then use the YouTube-generated embed code in your web page (assuming your learners have access to YouTube).

]]> By: Jenise Cook http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-13343 Jenise Cook Thu, 21 May 2009 22:42:25 +0000 http://blog.cathy-moore.com/?p=522#comment-13343 Cathy, Sad news, but you've given me some happy news... Camtasia for the Mac? YaY! I signed up for the Captivate beta test and hope they choose me. I love your blog, and you're in my blogroll! Preetam... I use Articulate Presenter to output my MS PPT 2007 interactions to Flash. A bit clunky, but it works. http://www.RidgeViewMedia.com/blog @jenisecook Cathy,

Sad news, but you’ve given me some happy news… Camtasia for the Mac? YaY!

I signed up for the Captivate beta test and hope they choose me.

I love your blog, and you’re in my blogroll!

Preetam… I use Articulate Presenter to output my MS PPT 2007 interactions to Flash. A bit clunky, but it works.

http://www.RidgeViewMedia.com/blog

@jenisecook

]]> By: Richard http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-13340 Richard Thu, 21 May 2009 12:55:10 +0000 http://blog.cathy-moore.com/?p=522#comment-13340 Wow! Thanks for the warning. I'm just about to buy a new Mac for more capacity and speed because I'm in the middle of a large elearning project in which many of my pages consist of Keynote to Flash presentations. Course, it has never been perfect in that... a) most of the transitions don't work in the conversion, and b) there is no control bar. [If there is HTML to create an added tool bar under the Flash, I don't know what it is.] The "b" has caused me to go to more Quicktime than Flash. Wow! Thanks for the warning. I’m just about to buy a new Mac for more capacity and speed because I’m in the middle of a large elearning project in which many of my pages consist of Keynote to Flash presentations. Course, it has never been perfect in that…
a) most of the transitions don’t work in the conversion, and
b) there is no control bar. [If there is HTML to create an added tool bar under the Flash, I don't know what it is.]

The “b” has caused me to go to more Quicktime than Flash.

]]> By: Preetam Rai http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-13330 Preetam Rai Wed, 20 May 2009 08:57:17 +0000 http://blog.cathy-moore.com/?p=522#comment-13330 Cathy, I find most people in my regions have iTunes, so the chances are that they have Quicktime player too. I suppose you can include a message that links to the Quicktime download page. I have been pestering Adobe people for ages to create an easy to use Keynote like Flash authoring tool but they seem to be more interested in higher -end tools like Flex. If you are using PowerPoint, you can use free tools such as iSpring to convert the ppt file to flash format that retains interactivity. iSpring is a windows only solution though. Cathy, I find most people in my regions have iTunes, so the chances are that they have Quicktime player too. I suppose you can include a message that links to the Quicktime download page.

I have been pestering Adobe people for ages to create an easy to use Keynote like Flash authoring tool but they seem to be more interested in higher -end tools like Flex.

If you are using PowerPoint, you can use free tools such as iSpring to convert the ppt file to flash format that retains interactivity. iSpring is a windows only solution though.

]]> By: Cathy Moore http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-13254 Cathy Moore Thu, 14 May 2009 01:38:35 +0000 http://blog.cathy-moore.com/?p=522#comment-13254 To create simple, standalone presentations that don't need a player, Jing or a similar tool is useful (see http://www.jingproject.com/). It gets complicated when we insist on having interactivity that goes beyond controlling the pace of the presentation, such as letting users click on the widget-winder to learn more about it. Since that type of branching is easy to set up in Keynote, it was easy to create interactive Flashes, but...not anymore. To create simple, standalone presentations that don’t need a player, Jing or a similar tool is useful (see http://www.jingproject.com/). It gets complicated when we insist on having interactivity that goes beyond controlling the pace of the presentation, such as letting users click on the widget-winder to learn more about it. Since that type of branching is easy to set up in Keynote, it was easy to create interactive Flashes, but…not anymore.

]]> By: Rick Presley http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2009/05/mac-users-avoid-keynote-09-for-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-13231 Rick Presley Tue, 12 May 2009 20:10:45 +0000 http://blog.cathy-moore.com/?p=522#comment-13231 The problem with QuickTime for us is that it is not part of the standard corporate desktop. I neither have it, nor can I get it without jumping through a lot of IT hoops, and even then, the outcome is problematic. Is there something like YouTube for animations that runs on its own and does not require the installation of a player? The problem with QuickTime for us is that it is not part of the standard corporate desktop. I neither have it, nor can I get it without jumping through a lot of IT hoops, and even then, the outcome is problematic.

Is there something like YouTube for animations that runs on its own and does not require the installation of a player?

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