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	<title>Comments on: Elearning ROI: Can we lead the way?</title>
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		<title>By: Cathy Moore</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2008/10/elearning-roi-can-we-lead-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-12819</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smithy, I&#039;m not sure how to convince clients to evaluate their projects. Surveys I&#039;ve seen suggest that only a minority of companies measure the effectiveness of elearning beyond checking a smile sheet. I think this is due in part to the common habit of creating elearning for broad, vague reasons, such as &quot;Improve customer service.&quot; If the client starts out with a fuzzy goal, they won&#039;t be able to measure anything.

So I wonder if we can help them by identifying measurable outcomes early in the design. First, we might need to steer the client to identifying a measurable result for the elearning--something like &quot;Increase customer retention by 8%&quot; instead of &quot;Improve customer service.&quot;

Once they agree to a measurable goal for the project, we can identify what the learners need to do (not know) in order to reach that goal. These actions will usually be measurable as well (like &quot;Respond to all customer emails within 24 hours&quot;).

During our design discussions, we could ask the client how they plan to measure the improvement caused by the elearning. If they give a vague response, we could suggest concrete things they can do, based on the goal and actions we&#039;ve identified in our design. 

It&#039;s a challenging situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smithy, I&#8217;m not sure how to convince clients to evaluate their projects. Surveys I&#8217;ve seen suggest that only a minority of companies measure the effectiveness of elearning beyond checking a smile sheet. I think this is due in part to the common habit of creating elearning for broad, vague reasons, such as &#8220;Improve customer service.&#8221; If the client starts out with a fuzzy goal, they won&#8217;t be able to measure anything.</p>
<p>So I wonder if we can help them by identifying measurable outcomes early in the design. First, we might need to steer the client to identifying a measurable result for the elearning&#8211;something like &#8220;Increase customer retention by 8%&#8221; instead of &#8220;Improve customer service.&#8221;</p>
<p>Once they agree to a measurable goal for the project, we can identify what the learners need to do (not know) in order to reach that goal. These actions will usually be measurable as well (like &#8220;Respond to all customer emails within 24 hours&#8221;).</p>
<p>During our design discussions, we could ask the client how they plan to measure the improvement caused by the elearning. If they give a vague response, we could suggest concrete things they can do, based on the goal and actions we&#8217;ve identified in our design. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a challenging situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Smithy</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2008/10/elearning-roi-can-we-lead-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-12798</link>
		<dc:creator>Smithy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem that I have in changing the perceptions of our clients comes down to us not always having &#039;evidence&#039; that performance has been improved. We create e-learning for clients and receive initial feedback from them but very little evaluation seems to go on and if it does we rarely hear about it. What recommendations would you make , apart from trying to sell our serivces to perform the evaluation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem that I have in changing the perceptions of our clients comes down to us not always having &#8216;evidence&#8217; that performance has been improved. We create e-learning for clients and receive initial feedback from them but very little evaluation seems to go on and if it does we rarely hear about it. What recommendations would you make , apart from trying to sell our serivces to perform the evaluation?</p>
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		<title>By: Raj Sekhar</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2008/10/elearning-roi-can-we-lead-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-12624</link>
		<dc:creator>Raj Sekhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

   Cathy, well done, and great thanks for your informative and innovative writings..

Cheers!!!

Raj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>   Cathy, well done, and great thanks for your informative and innovative writings..</p>
<p>Cheers!!!</p>
<p>Raj</p>
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		<title>By: Le performance nella formazione a distanza &#171; Elearnit: Know How to Know!</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2008/10/elearning-roi-can-we-lead-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7454</link>
		<dc:creator>Le performance nella formazione a distanza &#171; Elearnit: Know How to Know!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pastorelli su 28 Ottobre, 2008  In uno dei suoi ultimi post, Cathy Moore si interroga sull&#8217;efficacia dell&#8217;elearning e sulla misurazione delle performance della formazione a distanza. Mi sono riconosciuto molto nello [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Pastorelli su 28 Ottobre, 2008  In uno dei suoi ultimi post, Cathy Moore si interroga sull&#8217;efficacia dell&#8217;elearning e sulla misurazione delle performance della formazione a distanza. Mi sono riconosciuto molto nello [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Moore</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2008/10/elearning-roi-can-we-lead-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7440</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments. I agree that one of the big challenges we face is the tendency to view training as a quick answer to every problem, when other solutions haven&#039;t really been considered. I like Dave&#039;s points in this post:

http://www.daveswhiteboard.com/archives/818

As Dave points out, if we were to imitate performance improvement expert Tom Gilbert, we&#039;d ask our customers these questions:

- Do people have the information they need? (For example, do they know what standards they&#039;re supposed to be meeting?)

- Do they have the instruments they need?

- Do you have incentive systems to support the performance you need?

These questions identify improvements that could remove the need for training. If we ask these questions before agreeing to develop a &quot;course,&quot; we&#039;ll reshape our brand--we&#039;ll help customers see us as people who improve performance. We&#039;ll also have a much deeper understanding of our company&#039;s challenges, so when we do create training, it will more likely be effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments. I agree that one of the big challenges we face is the tendency to view training as a quick answer to every problem, when other solutions haven&#8217;t really been considered. I like Dave&#8217;s points in this post:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.daveswhiteboard.com/archives/818" rel="nofollow">http://www.daveswhiteboard.com/archives/818</a></p>
<p>As Dave points out, if we were to imitate performance improvement expert Tom Gilbert, we&#8217;d ask our customers these questions:</p>
<p>- Do people have the information they need? (For example, do they know what standards they&#8217;re supposed to be meeting?)</p>
<p>- Do they have the instruments they need?</p>
<p>- Do you have incentive systems to support the performance you need?</p>
<p>These questions identify improvements that could remove the need for training. If we ask these questions before agreeing to develop a &#8220;course,&#8221; we&#8217;ll reshape our brand&#8211;we&#8217;ll help customers see us as people who improve performance. We&#8217;ll also have a much deeper understanding of our company&#8217;s challenges, so when we do create training, it will more likely be effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Wilbanks</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2008/10/elearning-roi-can-we-lead-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7435</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Wilbanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cathy, I LOVE this line:

&quot;We need to challenge the customers who expect us to slap an elearning band-aid on their problem. We need them to see us as people who improve performance, not just people who put information online.&quot;

I think the real problem is the lack of effective branding within T&amp;D departments/agencies. If we, as learning professionals, would do a better job of branding what we do as &quot;improving performance and changing behaviors,&quot; I feel confident it would cut down on some of the false expectations that our clients have about what we will do with their content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathy, I LOVE this line:</p>
<p>&#8220;We need to challenge the customers who expect us to slap an elearning band-aid on their problem. We need them to see us as people who improve performance, not just people who put information online.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the real problem is the lack of effective branding within T&amp;D departments/agencies. If we, as learning professionals, would do a better job of branding what we do as &#8220;improving performance and changing behaviors,&#8221; I feel confident it would cut down on some of the false expectations that our clients have about what we will do with their content.</p>
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		<title>By: Bottom-Line Performance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Keep up with Training Trends - Use Email Alerts</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2008/10/elearning-roi-can-we-lead-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7319</link>
		<dc:creator>Bottom-Line Performance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Keep up with Training Trends - Use Email Alerts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This week I read some great posts that I would not have had time to go out and find on my own, like this post from Cathy Moore. The alerts let me poke my head in on the conversations others are having, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This week I read some great posts that I would not have had time to go out and find on my own, like this post from Cathy Moore. The alerts let me poke my head in on the conversations others are having, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ferguson</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2008/10/elearning-roi-can-we-lead-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7306</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sigh... that should have been &quot;...&lt;b&gt;rotated&lt;/b&gt; widgets...&quot; as an example of an accomplishment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sigh&#8230; that should have been &#8220;&#8230;<b>rotated</b> widgets&#8230;&#8221; as an example of an accomplishment.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ferguson</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2008/10/elearning-roi-can-we-lead-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7305</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Gilbert made a careful distinction between behavior (what you do) and accomplishment (what gets done).  One way to look at it is that behaviors are verbs (rotate widgets, interview applicants, process loans) while accomplishments are nouns (rotates widgets, completed interviews, processed loans).

How does that help?  One way to talk to your client is to start with the accomplishments.  This is a lot like &quot;how will you know when you&#039;ve solved the problem?&quot; -- the percentage of correctly rotated widgets goes up, or the length of time goes down, or the level of rotation-related injury drops.  (That last example probably deals more with the behavior -- am I following good safety practice when I&#039;m rotating? -- but it emerges from the accomplishment and the standards by which the accomplishment is judged.

In turn, this opens the possibility of true problem-solving based on accomplishments.  &quot;So, you want to reduce the loan error rate by 25%, and you&#039;d like to shorten the time-to-approve by 20%.  If we can develop a &lt;i&gt;form&lt;/i&gt; that reduces error, that means we don&#039;t need to train our way around the error.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Gilbert made a careful distinction between behavior (what you do) and accomplishment (what gets done).  One way to look at it is that behaviors are verbs (rotate widgets, interview applicants, process loans) while accomplishments are nouns (rotates widgets, completed interviews, processed loans).</p>
<p>How does that help?  One way to talk to your client is to start with the accomplishments.  This is a lot like &#8220;how will you know when you&#8217;ve solved the problem?&#8221; &#8212; the percentage of correctly rotated widgets goes up, or the length of time goes down, or the level of rotation-related injury drops.  (That last example probably deals more with the behavior &#8212; am I following good safety practice when I&#8217;m rotating? &#8212; but it emerges from the accomplishment and the standards by which the accomplishment is judged.</p>
<p>In turn, this opens the possibility of true problem-solving based on accomplishments.  &#8220;So, you want to reduce the loan error rate by 25%, and you&#8217;d like to shorten the time-to-approve by 20%.  If we can develop a <i>form</i> that reduces error, that means we don&#8217;t need to train our way around the error.&#8221;</p>
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