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	<title>Comments on: Dude or droid: What makes dialog realistic?</title>
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		<title>By: Helene Caura-Yang</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2008/04/dude-or-droid-what-makes-dialog-realistic/comment-page-1/#comment-18430</link>
		<dc:creator>Helene Caura-Yang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there

I couldn&#039;t hear anything but found the post interesting anyway, as a French ID working in English, for a lot of non native English speakers like me. Funny I never came across that problem of contractions! We&#039;re always concerned about consistency (using big words or jargons together with simplified vocab) but nobody told me to avoid using contractions. Maybe a US thing?</description>
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<p>I couldn&#8217;t hear anything but found the post interesting anyway, as a French ID working in English, for a lot of non native English speakers like me. Funny I never came across that problem of contractions! We&#8217;re always concerned about consistency (using big words or jargons together with simplified vocab) but nobody told me to avoid using contractions. Maybe a US thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Biddle</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2008/04/dude-or-droid-what-makes-dialog-realistic/comment-page-1/#comment-1303</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Biddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to mention that I&#039;ve been working with a package called SmartBuilder from SuddenlySmart.com.  They also have a quick and easy drag and drop builder which does allow instant feedback.  I often use the feature that allows wrong answers to bounce back to where they came from, show a check mark or x, etc. to give my learners instant feedback as they work on a puzzle.

Great post!
Julie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to mention that I&#8217;ve been working with a package called SmartBuilder from SuddenlySmart.com.  They also have a quick and easy drag and drop builder which does allow instant feedback.  I often use the feature that allows wrong answers to bounce back to where they came from, show a check mark or x, etc. to give my learners instant feedback as they work on a puzzle.</p>
<p>Great post!<br />
Julie</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ferguson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s even more absurd if you&#039;re talking about second-language users who are going to be reading discussion-board or blog postings by... North American native speakers of English.  

To me, the contraction-phobia is another example of &quot;not everything that gets counted, counts.&quot;  It&#039;s simple (albeit simply nonsense), and enforcing the rule, like holding meetings, is the exciting alternative to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s even more absurd if you&#8217;re talking about second-language users who are going to be reading discussion-board or blog postings by&#8230; North American native speakers of English.  </p>
<p>To me, the contraction-phobia is another example of &#8220;not everything that gets counted, counts.&#8221;  It&#8217;s simple (albeit simply nonsense), and enforcing the rule, like holding meetings, is the exciting alternative to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Moore</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2008/04/dude-or-droid-what-makes-dialog-realistic/comment-page-1/#comment-1193</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I&#039;ve heard the argument about contractions, too. It&#039;s a little bizarre to expect learners to understand &quot;Widget sales are dependent upon market demand and increase exponentially during economic upswings&quot; while believing that the same learners don&#039;t understand &quot;don&#039;t.&quot;

Another argument I&#039;ve heard is that contractions make translation harder. Maybe that&#039;s true if you rely 100% on machine translation, but that&#039;s a far bigger mistake than using some contractions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I&#8217;ve heard the argument about contractions, too. It&#8217;s a little bizarre to expect learners to understand &#8220;Widget sales are dependent upon market demand and increase exponentially during economic upswings&#8221; while believing that the same learners don&#8217;t understand &#8220;don&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
<p>Another argument I&#8217;ve heard is that contractions make translation harder. Maybe that&#8217;s true if you rely 100% on machine translation, but that&#8217;s a far bigger mistake than using some contractions.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ferguson</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2008/04/dude-or-droid-what-makes-dialog-realistic/comment-page-1/#comment-1192</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of language... I once built a course for a Prominent Online University.  Their standards document said I could not use contractions, because these are harder to understand when English isn&#039;t your native language.

My counter to that was that second-language speakers of English probably did learn about contractions (they&#039;re fairly common, I&#039;d say, and you&#039;ll have to deal with them).

P.O.U. didn&#039;t care, so I responded by putting contractions into my posts anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of language&#8230; I once built a course for a Prominent Online University.  Their standards document said I could not use contractions, because these are harder to understand when English isn&#8217;t your native language.</p>
<p>My counter to that was that second-language speakers of English probably did learn about contractions (they&#8217;re fairly common, I&#8217;d say, and you&#8217;ll have to deal with them).</p>
<p>P.O.U. didn&#8217;t care, so I responded by putting contractions into my posts anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Moore uses and reviews Dragster &#171; noah little</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Moore uses and reviews Dragster &#171; noah little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] quote her review here, but do go to the dialogue exercise and check that out [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cathy Moore</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2008/04/dude-or-droid-what-makes-dialog-realistic/comment-page-1/#comment-1188</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dragster update: Tony Lowe, the developer of Dragster, has emailed me to say that my inability to go back and edit labels I had already entered was a bug that he has now fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dragster update: Tony Lowe, the developer of Dragster, has emailed me to say that my inability to go back and edit labels I had already entered was a bug that he has now fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Moore</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2008/04/dude-or-droid-what-makes-dialog-realistic/comment-page-1/#comment-1187</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the comments, everyone. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Paul, I should have made more clear that my focus in this post was on dialog--what fictional characters say in the course. A story is stronger if the people in it sound like people in the real world. If instead the characters sound like they&#039;re reading from a textbook, the illusion of a story is broken.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree that writing style can become a political issue and could affect some readers&#039; perception of the writer. In corporate elearning, I think our goal should be to make the content of the course challenging, not the language. In my experience, using concise, informal language to present challenging interactions is more successful in most organizations than using complex prose. (I&#039;m often hired to rewrite materials that are too &quot;stuffy.&quot;) Of course, the client&#039;s jargon has to appear in the course, but I think the language itself needs to stay out of the way as much as possible.&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments, everyone. </p>
<p>Paul, I should have made more clear that my focus in this post was on dialog&#8211;what fictional characters say in the course. A story is stronger if the people in it sound like people in the real world. If instead the characters sound like they&#8217;re reading from a textbook, the illusion of a story is broken.</p>
<p>I agree that writing style can become a political issue and could affect some readers&#8217; perception of the writer. In corporate elearning, I think our goal should be to make the content of the course challenging, not the language. In my experience, using concise, informal language to present challenging interactions is more successful in most organizations than using complex prose. (I&#8217;m often hired to rewrite materials that are too &#8220;stuffy.&#8221;) Of course, the client&#8217;s jargon has to appear in the course, but I think the language itself needs to stay out of the way as much as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Jinks</title>
		<link>http://blog.cathy-moore.com/2008/04/dude-or-droid-what-makes-dialog-realistic/comment-page-1/#comment-1183</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Jinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think tone is a really interesting area in writing online materials. A lot of professions, especially academics, draw status from the use of a particularly formal type of speech (lots of passive voice etc), spattered with jargon, some of which is essential.  There is some concern that moving to more informal, speech-like language devalues both the message and the messenger. It&#039;s interesting to see to what extent the internet has its own more informal language. 

If you see training as at least in part welcoming the learner to a community (the community of javascript programmers, to take an example close to my heart), part of entry to that community is &#039;talking the talk&#039;, so there has to be a mix of registers which can at times be difficult to achieve. 

I suppose the job of the materials writer is to get the balance right between informal, personalised language that is usually engaging, like you might use face-to-face and the type of language relevant to the specialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think tone is a really interesting area in writing online materials. A lot of professions, especially academics, draw status from the use of a particularly formal type of speech (lots of passive voice etc), spattered with jargon, some of which is essential.  There is some concern that moving to more informal, speech-like language devalues both the message and the messenger. It&#8217;s interesting to see to what extent the internet has its own more informal language. </p>
<p>If you see training as at least in part welcoming the learner to a community (the community of javascript programmers, to take an example close to my heart), part of entry to that community is &#8216;talking the talk&#8217;, so there has to be a mix of registers which can at times be difficult to achieve. </p>
<p>I suppose the job of the materials writer is to get the balance right between informal, personalised language that is usually engaging, like you might use face-to-face and the type of language relevant to the specialism.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing. I can use that app. And your example is great lesson in the personalization principle. I&#039;ll have to make something similar for a faculty training module at my College</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing. I can use that app. And your example is great lesson in the personalization principle. I&#8217;ll have to make something similar for a faculty training module at my College</p>
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